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Title: Taxonomy is the dullest of sciences [read this for good decks]
Post by: serprex on August 25, 2019, 05:02:58 pm
First, for those who just want to try a few good decks, here's some ideas for AI target
Magephoenixrush (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1361)monogoo (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1360)alphabond (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1311)
ChampionCG's monos (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=985.msg4641#msg4641)Tempered Spirit Saders (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1116)ffqhope (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1237)
Demigodrolhope (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1202)GiveSingu (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1282.msg6161#msg6161)kittywall (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=711.msg5694#msg5694)
Arena1speedfungus (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=58)Warm your dragons! (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1104)pixiegon (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=114)
Arena2sosavoid (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1130.msg6167#msg6167)patcell (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1234)Dead Heat (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1095)
Target: commoner, mage, champ, dg, arena1, arena2, unupped pvp, upped pvp, fun/other (tournaments etc). Essentially "intended meta"

These can have overlap. Most things targetting mage also do well vs commoner. Most things targeting champ do well vs arena1. Arena2 varies

Elements: this is easy to categorize, so it gets included

Strategy: more interesting than elements is the plan of the deck. Strategy is ultimately determined by win condition. openEtG currently lacks "if X, you win the game" effects, leaving the only win conditions being drawing a card from an empty deck & non-positive hp. Unlike original, there are viable mill strategies, ie rushing towards the win condition of causing your opponent to draw from an empty deck. This gets into breaking strategy itself into multiple dimensions:
  • Win condition (damage, deckout. A deck may be capable of achieving both, but only one will matter in the end)
  • Offensive control (lightning, deflag, pande, warden)
  • Defensive control (sanctify, pa, atlantis, cloak, armagio, momentum)
  • Prophylaxis (healing, anti deckout mechanics)
  • Quanta base / Speed (this often implies the deck's intended speed, where heavier quanta will fall off in efficiency in later turns)
  • Wide vs Tall (Wolf is wide, Dragons are tall, blessing is tall, sopa is wide)
  • Card generation (sose, alchemist, stormspike, hourglass)
  • Combo (otks, regrade combos, adrenaline, etc. How efficient are the cards without each other?)

I'm going to bucket decks under these groups:
  • Rush (#post_rush): racing towards win condition
  • Domin (#post_domin): relies on offensive control, tending to negate threats while playing threats
  • Stall (#post_stall): prophylaxis, tends to include offensive control, win condition tends to come once opponent is exhausted
  • Clock (#post_clock): relies on defensive control, primarily loses to a faster win condition
  • Denial (#post_denial): because quanta production is quadratic, denial decks tend to rush for a soft win condition. Either they achieve a lock which gives them time to draw into their real win condition, or they aim to get a winning position by time the denial is overcome
  • Other (#post_other): ??

With keywords to clarify:
  • Mill: win condition is deckout, not damage
  • OTK: relies on specific combo that should immediately win
  • Wide/Tall: many small threats, or few large threats

There are a few other threads compiling decks,
Archived Decks (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=11) decks posted in first year of oetg's life from original forum
Old Starters (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=9) what new players used to get
BGA_NICE99 experimental decks (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1475)
Weapon Decks Bibliotek (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1385)
Kirby's "Wtf Are You Doing" Decks (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=628)
(Upped) Nick's Top 10 Favorite PVP Decks(Post Your Favorites Here!) (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1235)

Rush
Speedjelly, Combo (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=984)
Ricovu, Combo (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=865)
Brave Axe, Combo (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=980)
Innorico, Mill (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=773)
Shifteract, bit of combo (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=851)
Tempered Gladius (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=888) & Tempered Gladiator (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=887), Combo
Dejashift, Ramp Combo (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=131)
immorush: Inferro (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1012), immosalvager (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1135), immorustler (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1241)
Firebrand OP (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=617)
16 Common Rushes (See last spoiler of last spoiler of last spoiler) (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=985.msg4641#msg4641)
Those Two Regrade Rushes (+ bonus otk & dimstall) (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=757)
Warm your dragons! tess/tidal/dragon combo (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1104)
Adrenalpuff (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1133) (maybe not a rush, trades off speed for ramp/bypass, has healing to try edge out in damage race, but is vulnerable to shields or CC so doesn't fit into clock)
givethermal (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1225) Look ma, using Give as PC
soirush (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1080)
ricovu (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=865)
bnymph (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1232) breaks stalls lacking CC or reflective
Raging Martyr (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=276) oh so smart (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1254) Holy Martyr (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1331) vamartyr/Communist Martyr (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1325) Stoned Martyr (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1076) MarTyrK (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=307)
Stasis Axe (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1260)
Shiftessgon (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1262)
Sum of Our Knowledge (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1266) Shifter combo quad
Communist Dragons (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1203)
minomare (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1300)
Mom Knows (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=820) momentum/hognose
alphabond (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1311)
monorochi (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=81)
mutantlarity (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1547) Singularity/Mutation/PU combo rush

Domin
Enchantressink (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=998)
Material Girls. Breaks with UG & Nymph spam, cc domins with rage & basilisk (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=207)
thermaltoxin (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1105.msg5087#msg5087)
immoricotemperquake (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1119)
sopawarden (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1127)
bonebolt (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1125)
SoW Reflect - The Many Variations (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1124) basically its own combo archetype
Mono Command Skeletons (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1222)
Blue Scarab (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1249)
Holy Reaper (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1251)
Mono Salvager (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1270)
Night Phantom (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1294)
Metal Mirror (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=396.msg5876#msg5876)
Pharie/Invictus (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1309) cheat out fast pharaohs
King Tut (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1330) sopapharaoh

Stall
Shaman OTK (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=991)
Speedfungus (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=58) Dry Spell / Fungus, stalls with bonds
Patcell (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1234)
Toadpatcell (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=810)
SadCells. Bond stall with sopa break (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1009)
Storm stall mill (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=326) (flying/endow stormspike decks, plus bonus The Deck variant)
Hogjuv. Prophylaxis & damage (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=722)
Are we idle yet? (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1027)
Mitoshamanhope (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1022)
Swallow (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1126)
PoisonHeal (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1130) sosa
rolhope (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1202)
sharkhope (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1362)
bloodcell (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1284) hope with malignant cells & blood moon
Protectonics (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1227) Living Defender (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1445)
ffqhope (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1237)
vadersader (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1248)
Dead Heat (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1095) Heat Mirror Wall
Great Wall (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1506) disperse/meta earth ramp

Clock
Impatient Blobs, Wide (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=975)
VoodooLize OTK (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=946)
Spinfinite OTK (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=289)
oInstosis OTK (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1097)
shiftertal OTK (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=188) (bit outdated, need to replace innos in decks posted to thread)
Vindex Vindi OTK (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1193)
Draftnymph (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=860)
Tessapult (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=718)
Parawhale (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=702)
GiveSosa (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1006)
Give52 (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1073)
Neurodials (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=44)
VenomDials (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=685)
Deathspam cat/spite decks (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1026)
Monodemic (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1285)
Mono Aether Mill (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1152)
Boomfinite (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=304) boomstick/endow infinite combo
Inertia Chargetal (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1229)
Equadragontal (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1243) slow for a rush, fast for a clock, fragile to CC on rustlers
Void Shaman (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1007) SoV clock with lots of healing
osmovootk (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1021)
catagon (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1301) catacomb (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1304) cataract (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1302) catatitan (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=783.0) cataghuang (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1230)
Quintress (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1342)

Denial
devtal (https://etg.dek.im/deck/0a7um067t6027ta047td028080281q0480i018pu)
mitodev (https://etg.dek.im/deck/027am057ap027ak0d7um067t6027tb017ta018pn)
devquake (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1287) minodevquake (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=246)
disquake
dbh comes in duo (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1286), quad (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=203), bow (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=128), ramp (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=923) forms
pickpocket (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1113)self-target goon combos
wbh (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1143.0)
silentsabbath (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=846.msg4405#msg4405)
silentepoch (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1256)
silentbravery (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1271)
salvagequake (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1424)

Other
Millcat: A study of embezzling black cat. Includes variants embodying rush, domin, & prophylaxis (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=979)
MESS, Mono Earth Stone Skin. Rush with Stoneskin as prophylaxis (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=105)
Neoneogeomono. Ramp with prophylaxis (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=826)
ByakkoVoid. Anti-healing rush (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=596)
Pande 3.0. A bit of a table flip strategy hoping the table flips in your favor (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1048)
GiveSingu (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=120) Communist Singularity (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1259)
Bloodgoyle. Vampirism to outrace rushes, maxhp reduction to bust healing (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1196)
sovdials stallbreaker with chances vs anything lacking pc
monopuffer (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1228) icebolt domin, oceanus/freeze stall, puffer breaker
aquaticvirus (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1233) two decks bringing mitigation (mass purify or massive hope) while having option to plague, blood moon version offers an epidemic clock, meanwhile tidal has infected beat down. Both very weak to mass CC & rushes
Labyrinth (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1158) minotaur spam
Fart (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1144) give/fire fungus combo
geodiss (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=619) stall with geo/diss is a versatile shell
shakar (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1352) voodoogpbbpu damageless combo rush
Wicked R&R (https://etg.dek.im/forum/index.php?topic=1474) rejuv combo to remove debuffs