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General Category => General Game Discussion => Topic started by: Elemensch on August 11, 2024, 08:50:01 pm

Title: "First past the post" full text?
Post by: Elemensch on August 11, 2024, 08:50:01 pm
"Win with non-positive HP, or foe loses from damage..."

Foe losing from damage seems like a basic win condition, so I'm guessing there's more text hidden behind the victory card.

What is the full text? And what's the technical meaning behind the two cases?

Thanks for any insight!
Title: Re: "First past the post" full text?
Post by: Hitei on August 11, 2024, 09:43:56 pm
Quote from: Elemensch on August 11, 2024, 08:50:01 pm
"Win with non-positive HP, or foe loses from damage..."

Foe losing from damage seems like a basic win condition, so I'm guessing there's more text hidden behind the victory card.

What is the full text? And what's the technical meaning behind the two cases?

Thanks for any insight!

Basically that the Opponent died before you died. so you won even if you ended with negative HP. at least if I remember it well.
Title: Re: "First past the post" full text?
Post by: Elemensch on August 26, 2024, 05:02:34 pm
Right, I'm asking about the specifics of how that can happen.

Title: Re: "First past the post" full text?
Post by: timpa on August 26, 2024, 08:14:52 pm
Suppose you and your opponent have 5 hp. It's your opponents turn and they attack you with 2 creatures:

* A creature with -5 attack but vampire (first attacker)
* A creature with 11 attack (second attacker)

You will win, with your opponent having 0hp and you having -1
Title: Re: "First past the post" full text?
Post by: Elemensch on September 09, 2024, 09:17:05 pm
Quote from: timpa on August 26, 2024, 08:14:52 pm
Suppose you and your opponent have 5 hp. It's your opponents turn and they attack you with 2 creatures:

* A creature with -5 attack but vampire (first attacker)
* A creature with 11 attack (second attacker)

You will win, with your opponent having 0hp and you having -1

Interesting, so the game decides to make the 2nd attack happen even after the other player is dead?

But tracks who died first?
Title: Re: "First past the post" full text?
Post by: serprex on September 13, 2024, 12:48:54 am
Yes

This also impacts cases where in original the game would end before a bunch of vampires healed the player to full, preventing EM, whereas in oetg the player will end with full hp
Title: Re: "First past the post" full text?
Post by: Elemensch on September 20, 2024, 12:16:14 am
So ... what happened here?

I'm at full health (100 hp). The opponent seemed to have 1 hp left when the game ended.

Did the enemy kill itself somehow?

{"date":1726791185751,"seed":1830284358,"players":[{"idx":1,"name":"Elemensch","user":"Elemensch","deck":"0d7780277i0177t0177j0277v0677a047800177b018pm"},{"idx":2,"ai":1,"name":"Celeste","deck":"074sa024sh014vv054vj014vg014vt014ve0152m0153c0153b0152t0155q015610258t015930159e015c9015f4015fa015ia015if015is015lp015lo015lb015oe015ru015v0015uq015vb0162i018pi","hp":100,"drawpower":1,"markpower":1}],"moves":[{"x":"accept"},{"x":"accept","c":0,"t":0},{"x":"cast","c":10},{"x":"cast","c":12},{"x":"cast","c":13},{"x":"cast","c":5},{"x":"cast","c":23},{"x":"end"},{"x":"end","c":0,"t":41},{"x":"cast","c":28},{"x":"cast","c":8},{"x":"end"},{"x":"cast","c":38,"t":0},{"x":"end","c":0,"t":0},{"x":"cast","c":18},{"x":"cast","c":7},{"x":"end"},{"x":"cast","c":45,"t":0},{"x":"cast","c":72,"t":0},{"x":"end","c":0,"t":0},{"x":"cast","c":27},{"x":"end"},{"x":"cast","c":40,"t":0},{"x":"end","c":0,"t":0},{"x":"cast","c":24},{"x":"end"},{"x":"cast","c":34,"t":0},{"x":"end","c":0,"t":0},{"x":"cast","c":15},{"x":"end"},{"x":"cast","c":52,"t":23},{"x":"cast","c":64,"t":2},{"x":"cast","c":62,"t":23},{"x":"end","c":0,"t":0},{"x":"cast","c":4},{"x":"end"},{"x":"cast","c":73,"t":0},{"x":"end","c":0,"t":0},{"x":"cast","c":9},{"x":"end"}]}
Title: Re: "First past the post" full text?
Post by: serprex on September 20, 2024, 03:55:56 am
Steel Golems dealt 14 damage when opponent had 13hp left. Purify healed them back up to 1hp