Problems with looking at original forum's FG counters:
1. shards are not easily accessible at this time
2. some of the counters in original won't work in legacy since legacy uses openEtG's AI
Mostly copied from
majofa's threads from original after testing in Legacy
See also dragonsdemesne's rareless unupped countersTo test a counter vs FG you can enter the FG's name on Main Menu & press
vs AISpoiler for Akebono:
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/012us022v20g37402376063780137a0137c0237g0437i018pl.svg)
012us022v20g37402376063780137a0137c0237g0437i018pl
or replace momentum with heal
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0e12c0612n0512f0518q018pl.svg)
0e12c0612n0512f0518q018pl
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0g0va0612n041da061c4011i2061om011rg061uk021ul0121p01252018pj.svg)
0g0va0612n041da061c4011i2061om011rg061uk021ul0121p01252018pj
Spoiler for Chaos Lord:
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0a2tq0a30s0130t0130v023100231103312063130331401315043160137a013gm013jn063mp01409018pj.svg)
0a2tq0a30s0130t0130v023100231103312063130331401315043160137a013gm013jn063mp01409018pj
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0a12c0112o0b1l4041lf041lg018pu.svg)
0a12c0112o0b1l4041lf041lg018pu
Spoiler for Dark Matter:
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0j3740437501376013780137a0237b0137c0437d0637f0237o043mu013mv013n1018pq.svg)
0j3740437501376013780137a0237b0137c0437d0637f0237o043mu013mv013n1018pq
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0f24o0324u0624t0624v018pu.svg)
0f24o0324u0624t0624v018pu
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0e24o0624q0624t0424v018pu.svg)
0e24o0624q0624t0424v018pu
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0612j0612n02172021l50c1pq061om021uk0226a02251018pj.svg)
0612j0612n02172021l50c1pq061om021uk0226a02251018pj
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0n0va0612n061c4021f3021l5061om061up031ul06251018pj.svg)
0n0va0612n061c4021f3021l5061om061up031ul06251018pj
Spoiler for Decay:
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0640601408024090140a0640c074380143e0643i018pt.svg)
0640601408024090140a0640c074380143e0643i018pt
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0b1o8041pq061om051oa0421p018pt.svg)
0b1o8041pq061om051oa0421p018pt
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0g0va021f4021i6031li061om021ul0221p02251018pq.svg)
0g0va021f4021i6031li061om021ul0221p02251018pq
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0j0va0612j0315u061c2061c4051bs061om011ul0521p03251018pm.svg)
0j0va0612j0315u061c2061c4051bs061om011ul0521p03251018pm
500EM pure deckout variant
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0n0va0612j061c2061c4051bs011f2011la061om0621p018pm.svg)
0n0va0612j061c2061c4051bs011f2011la061om0621p018pm
quanta heavy rolhope works
Spoiler for Destiny:
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0d30s0230t053120531302316083t0063t2043t4033t5023t8018ps.svg)
0d30s0230t053120531302316083t0063t2043t4033t5023t8018ps
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0f24o0324u0624t0624v018pu.svg)
0f24o0324u0624t0624v018pu
can replace steal/sanct with hourglass/butterfly
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0d0va011lf021li011om0221p0224o032510624t018pu.svg)
0d0va011lf021li011om0221p0224o032510624t018pu
Spoiler for Divine Glory:
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/033gg063gm0d3mo063n1033n2053q2018pq.svg)
033gg063gm0d3mo063n1033n2053q2018pq
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0312j061o9061oj041ok051oa061uh018ps.svg)
0312j061o9061oj041ok051oa061uh018ps
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0k12c0412j0612g061bu061c2061c4041c0011f2011la01254018pm.svg)
0k12c0412j0612g061bu061c2061c4041c0011f2011la01254018pm
rolhope works, only play 8 rols, rest of field dragons
Spoiler for Dream Catcher:
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0630s0630u0631302315033180131g0137f013ai013aj013gr013jl013jn023q7013t1013t2024060143a0143h018pj.svg)
0630s0630u0631302315033180131g0137f013ai013aj013gr013jl013jn023q7013t1013t2024060143a0143h018pj
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/082tq03312063130437f033dk033td0643a018pj.svg)
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![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0a0va0612j0418v041c2031bs031li03251018pm.svg)
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![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0g0va0412p0618v031f4031of031ut018pl.svg)
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![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/070va0612j0212p0618v031c2021f4021li02251018pl.svg)
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![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0g0va0612j0112p0618v061c2061c4051bs011f2031la031li031om011rh03251018pm.svg)
0g0va0612j0112p0618v061c2061c4051bs011f2031la031li031om011rh03251018pm
Spoiler for Elidnis:
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/063dh023di013dk013dl053dm0a3jk033jm053jn033ju033jv074380543b0343f0243h018pn.svg)
063dh023di013dk013dl053dm0a3jk033jm053jn033ju033jv074380543b0343f0243h018pn
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0o0va0212o011la041li061up031ul042510624t018pu.svg)
0o0va0212o011la041li061up031ul042510624t018pu
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0o0va0115k0115s061c4011f2021i8011la011rp061up031ul0624o0624t0124r01252018pm.svg)
0o0va0115k0115s061c4011f2021i8011la011rp061up031ul0624o0624t0124r01252018pm
Spoiler for Eternal Phoenix:
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0b3gg023gi023gk043gm013go063gs0143a0343i018pu.svg)
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![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0e15g0415n0415r061lj021ld018pp.svg)
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![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0e15g0415n0415r0215h061rh018pr.svg)
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![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0415r061i0081ji061i8061ic018pk.svg)
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![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0c15g0615k0615p0615r018pk.svg)
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![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0612p0112n0915g041720315n0315k0415r018pj.svg)
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Spoiler for Ferox:
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0h3dc043dd043de063df043dg013dk013dl063dm023dn063mp018pn.svg)
0h3dc043dd043de063df043dg013dk013dl063dm023dn063mp018pn
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0g0va0212o031li021ul0624t01252018pu.svg)
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![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0a0va0412j031lg031su061up041ul0a26a0624t018ps.svg)
0a0va0412j031lg031su061up041ul0a26a0624t018ps
500EM can replace otys with more steam and butterfly effect
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0g0va0318r051da011bu061c4011f2021li011om061up021ul0624t01252018pu.svg)
0g0va0318r051da011bu061c4011f2021li011om061up021ul0624t01252018pu
Spoiler for Fire Queen:
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0g3dc063dm033gk023gn0b3ps033q2063q3033q5018pr.svg)
0g3dc063dm033gk023gn0b3ps033q2063q3033q5018pr
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0e0va021720115k011i8021rn011rp031ul0524t01252018pu.svg)
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![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0c0va0212o021ji041li021ul042510624t018pu.svg)
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![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0m0va0418r061c4021f2021li021om061up041ul062510624t018ps.svg)
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![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0j0va0212o031da061c4031li041om021up061ul0626a032510624t018ps.svg)
0j0va0212o031da061c4031li041om021up061ul0626a032510624t018ps
Spoiler for Gemini:
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/063740437a033780d4380143e0643g0443d0643b0143c0143f018pu.svg)
063740437a033780d4380143e0643g0443d0643b0143c0143f018pu
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0h13u061lg0521k0221p018pp.svg)
0h13u061lg0521k0221p018pp
Spoiler for Graviton:
These are all long shots
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0e3740337a0137d0637e013790137c02375013760337b023gm013go018po.svg)
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![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/041lb0g26a042510624r018pp.svg)
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![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0c1a60318q0618r011oj061of021oi018pq.svg)
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![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/070va0612j0112n041c2011i2031lf011om031ro021uk0121p03251018pu.svg)
070va0612j0112n041c2011i2031lf011om031ro021uk0121p03251018pu
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0a1bo0d1l4021la011lj041lg018pp.svg)
0a1bo0d1l4021la011lj041lg018pp
Spoiler for Hecate:
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/063gr0a40401408024090240a0140b0440e0640g0140h018po.svg)
063gr0a40401408024090240a0140b0440e0640g0140h018po
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0g13u0612n0624r0224v018pu.svg)
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![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0g1bo061c2061br061ro018pr.svg)
0g1bo061c2061br061ro018pr
Spoiler for Hermes:
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/033ad023ai0k3gg043gh013gi043gj063gk013gl063gm013gn023go063gq023gr018pm.svg)
033ad023ai0k3gg043gh013gi043gj063gk013gl063gm013gn023go063gq023gr018pm
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/061c20c24o032510624t0324r018pm.svg)
061c20c24o032510624t0324r018pm
Spoiler for Incarnate:
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/04342053470434b0f404044070440a0140b0640d018pk.svg)
04342053470434b0f404044070440a0140b0640d018pk
wait for eclipse before voodootal, can try fractal vamps after first voodootal to EM, Incarnate won't plague once there's a few voodoos on field
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/052200824o0726a0624t04252018pt.svg)
052200824o0726a0624t04252018pt
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0b0va0312j0318q021li011ut011ul032510624t018pu.svg)
0b0va0312j0318q021li011ut011ul032510624t018pu
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0612j0218l011f2011la061up0d26a0624t02252018pl.svg)
0612j0218l011f2011la061up0d26a0624t02252018pl
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0a0va081da061c4061up022530624t02252018pu.svg)
0a0va081da061c4061up022530624t02252018pu
morte counter subset works
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0i0va031lg031su061up031ul032510624t018ps.svg)
0i0va031lg031su061up031ul032510624t018ps
Spoiler for Jezebel:
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0a2tq073jk013jp063k0044090140b0240c0340i018pt.svg)
0a2tq073jk013jp063k0044090140b0240c0340i018pt
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0212j0118q051c2061i9021i6051ia061o9021uk0124p018pm.svg)
0212j0118q051c2061i9021i6051ia061o9021uk0124p018pm
Spoiler for Lionheart:
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/032tq053mo053n5013q2083t0023t3053t5033t7023t8013tc0243h0344q018ps.svg)
032tq053mo053n5013q2083t0023t3053t5033t7023t8013tc0243h0344q018ps
Can replace HGs with Steal
can replace deflag with butterfly effect or momentum
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0b0va041ji021i6031li011ul032510624t018pu.svg)
0b0va041ji021i6031li011ul032510624t018pu
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0c0va0312j0218q021li011ut0121p032510624t018pu.svg)
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![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0g24o0624t0224s0624v018pu.svg)
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Spoiler for Miracle:
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/043dc013dd023df013dk013dl093mo033mq023mr013mt033mv013n1033n2043ps033q3018pq.svg)
043dc013dd023df013dk013dl093mo033mq023mr013mt033mv013n1033n2043ps033q3018pq
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0e0va031ji041li021ul012540624t018pu.svg)
0e0va031ji041li021ul012540624t018pu
block Miracle with Silence
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0f24o032540624t0624r018pu.svg)
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PU dragon, then PU accelerated dragon
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/041920e24o0624t0624r018pl.svg)
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![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/071bo041da061c4031pq011om061up051ul0e26a032540624t0524r018ps.svg)
071bo041da061c4031pq011om061up051ul0e26a032540624t0524r018ps
Spoiler for Morte:
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0f340023410634201343033440334705348033490234a0334b063mp033mu013n2018pk.svg)
0f340023410634201343033440334705348033490234a0334b063mp033mu013n2018pk
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0k0va041la031lg031su061up041ul022510624t018ps.svg)
0k0va041la031lg031su061up041ul022510624t018ps
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0o0va061c4021f2041la031lg031su061up041ul022510624t018ps.svg)
0o0va061c4021f2041la031lg031su061up041ul022510624t018ps
Spoiler for Neptune:
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0c3jk043jm013jn023jp043jr013js023jt043k1013q5063q7018pr.svg)
0c3jk043jm013jn023jp043jr013js023jt043k1013q5063q7018pr
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/031i60d24o0624t0224s0624v018po.svg)
031i60d24o0624t0224s0624v018po
can replace dials with an hourglass & time pends
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/090va0112j0215u0318q011li031up011ut0324o032510624t018pu.svg)
090va0112j0215u0318q011li031up011ut0324o032510624t018pu
500EM may need to RT Photon
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0k0va0612n061c4061f2011o9031om061ro021up031uk0121p0624t018pu.svg)
0k0va0612n061c4061f2011o9031om061ro021up031uk0121p0624t018pu
Spoiler for Obliterator:
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0437a0537d0k3a8053ab023ac023af063ah033ai018pl.svg)
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![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0612n0g2360221s0621u018pj.svg)
0612n0g2360221s0621u018pj
Spoiler for Octane:
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/023gk013gl023gm0c3ps043q2053q5063q6018po.svg)
023gk013gl023gm0c3ps043q2053q5063q6018po
deck must be large, wincon is deckout, oetg ai's strategy draws slower than in original
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0a12c0413u0612j0612n011f2021i6011la061og0121p06251018pu.svg)
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![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/041og041of061om081ug0c202061up061uk041ut061ul018pq.svg)
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![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0612n0a1ge061f2031f40724o0624v018pj.svg)
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![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/010va0612j081ge061f2011f4011la021og031uk0624v018pu.svg)
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![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0k0va0612n0a1da061c4061f2011f4041og061uk01251018pj.svg)
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Spoiler for Osiris:
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0237a0237h023820g3t0013t3023t4013t8023tb063tc018pl.svg)
0237a0237h023820g3t0013t3023t4013t8023tb063tc018pl
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0f24o0324u0624t0624v018pu.svg)
0f24o0324u0624t0624v018pu
Spoiler for Paradox:
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/083mp083mv023n0023n1033n2083t1043t50a4380543b018ps.svg)
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![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/041lf041ok021oa0d24o0324q05252018pp.svg)
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![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0b0va011f1041i0021ji041li011ul0121p0624t018pu.svg)
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block Miracle with Silence
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0f24o032540624t0624r018pu.svg)
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![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0m0va0612j0315u0318q061c4011la061up021ul0321p01254012530624t018ps.svg)
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Spoiler for Rainbow:
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0o2tq043110337d043ag043dh043gm033jn023n2023q5053t5034090243a018ps.svg)
0o2tq043110337d043ag043dh043gm033jn023n2023q5053t5034090243a018ps
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/063mp043n4023mq0c4380643i018pu.svg)
063mp043n4023mq0c4380643i018pu
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/091bo061da061c2012540624t02252018pu.svg)
091bo061da061c2012540624t02252018pu
dragonsdemesne's unupped rareless longshot
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0l0va0412p0315r0618v041c2041i6061rn0321p0624q03253018pu.svg)
0l0va0412p0315r0618v041c2041i6061rn0321p0624q03253018pu
Spoiler for Scorpio:
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/053480134a0i3jk033jl033jm033jn013jo023jp013jq023jr013js013jt063ju023jv034380243b018pk.svg)
053480134a0i3jk033jl033jm033jn013jo023jp013jq023jr013js013jt063ju023jv034380243b018pk
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0i0va0115k0215s021i8041la031om051ro011rp051ul01252018ps.svg)
0i0va0115k0215s021i8041la031om051ro011rp051ul01252018ps
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0a0va0612j0112n0115k0215s011f2021i8031la021om041ro011rp061up031ul0426a0324t01252018ps.svg)
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![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0g0va061c4011f2011i8061la021om061ro04202061up031ul032530624t018pm.svg)
0g0va061c4011f2011i8061la021om061ro04202061up031ul032530624t018pm
Spoiler for Seism:
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0g3a8013a9023aa023ab013ac033ae013af063ag023ai063aj013ak043t4013t6018ps.svg)
0g3a8013a9023aa023ab013ac033ae013af063ag023ai063aj013ak043t4013t6018ps
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/030va0612j0315u0318q011f1061up0324o0326a032510624t018pu.svg)
030va0612j0315u0318q011f1061up0324o0326a032510624t018pu
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/020va0612j0215u0318q011c2011ut0324o0326a032510624t018pu.svg)
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![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0g1da041c20624t012520324v018pu.svg)
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Spoiler for Serket:
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/07340053430234a0534e083dc053do023e00340a0340i018pt.svg)
07340053430234a0534e083dc053do023e00340a0340i018pt
any deck with 6 wings win
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0d1mm031la061le061ro021rf018pr.svg)
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reusing cards more common in other counters
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0d0va041ji021la031li021ul0624t018pu.svg)
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reusing cards more common in other counters
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0d1mm041la051lg021ug0624t018pu.svg)
0d1mm041la051lg021ug0624t018pu
reusing cards more common in other counters
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/041la0e24o0624t0624r018pp.svg)
041la0e24o0624t0624r018pp
reusing cards more common in other counters
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/041la0f24o0624t0524v018pp.svg)
041la0f24o0624t0524v018pp
reusing Divine Glory counter cards
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0512j021la061o9061oj041ok011oa061uh018ps.svg)
0512j021la061o9061oj041ok011oa061uh018ps
![](https://etg.dek.im/deck/0612j0215u0118u0c1bo061c4031la061ro061up018pr.svg)
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