Request for general thoughts on pvp meta & cards & stuff, given OL

[serprex]

Will start with my own logs

Spoiler for decks:

unshadow

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thedeck

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Modified for more quanta often, never played nova version

grabbow

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ghostmare

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undbhbow

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unmonotime

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Started off with less quanta & ghosts

unimmorush

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unbonebolt

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unluciwolf

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unbnymph

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Originally -2 swave -2 fog +2 owl +2 burncard

unneuro

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unpsion

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unchrys

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uninst

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unpixie

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unnt

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unfirelight

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2-1 D2D (with serprexalt)
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vs monolife (heal, 12hp away)

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vs adrenastaves

1-2 Fippe
thedeck won vs FFQ/Thunderstorm/Sanct. Early cleps before sanct out
grabbow lost to gshield (used midas on pulvy oops)
shadowrush wrong mark vs grabbow

2-0 Odin
monotime beats wingstream, shaowrush beats geont

2-1 cg
immorush a turn away lost to bonebolt/fractal
monotime60 beats monotime35 (destroyed all Eternity)
thedeck topdecks geo vs devquake

2-1 kirby
thedeck beats ghostmare
monotime draws no barrier, loses to spider/wings/dims
bonebolt beats monoentropy

1-2 timpa
Bonebolt no quanta vs monotime
shadowrush outraces something
thedeck qp troll vs immorush

2-0 kirby
Forgot to log. Details hazy
dbhbow awkwardly won eventually

2-0 lin
FFQ is EQ resistant vs devquake
Shadowrush way faster than RT/poison

2-0 gomory
Monotime, slow nymph, RT locked pulvy/gshield/plate/oty/golem with midasinno finisher
Shadowrush vs yoinkmill

2-0 kirby
Well drawn immorush vs NT rush
Luciwolf with wrong mark vs Recoil/SoD. No Fire Shield or RoF

2-1 Fippe
Neurodials vs chrysdials. Fippe mulligan'd to 3 cards, nova spent water
Bnymph/Burn vs sosebow. Discord delayed nymphs, fast OE, never got UG, lost with Fippe at 1hp
monotime vs bnymph. All the RT in the world, swave for nymphs, tstorm delayed pharaoh win

0-2 cg
Speedpoison loses to NTrush
TheDeck loses to Bnymph (modified with even more quanta afterwards)

2-1 kirbylover314
innont outrushes sopaboom
chrys vs thedeck stacked with purifies goes nowhere
innont with slow draw beats monont without NT

2-1 gomory
innont vs OTK that never gets time quanta
neurodials vs geoss, momentum arse kills before innomill
innont vs geoss, won before diss, had midas

2-1 gomory
otk vs monoentropy
psiontal misplayed vs mill (needed to keep hand full)
speedpoison outraces geoss

1-2 Odin
innont beats repulsor
speedpoison loses to orochifungus (1hp trolling so hard)
neurodials vs geoss is lame

2-0 kirby
firestall beats slow ug
pixie beats BB/golem/boom/sopa

2-0 timpa
innont beats Immortal
Shadowrush won when dim chain dropped (SoW/Golem)

0-2 Fippe
innont outrushed by EQ grabbow
innont couldn't get midas in time vs Gshield/Sskin

2-1 kirby
OTK beats NTrush
shadowrush vs Tstorm/Bnymph is depressing
monotime beats Immortal with damage (PA'd tit shield might turn matchup)

2-1 kirby
pixiegon failed to break thedeck (I misplayed a bit, eh, bonewall too strong)
psiontal outrushed grabbow (thanks phase shield)
fire/light beats bnymphs (was considering shadowrush.. glad I didn't do that)



Found meta rather stallish, thus prompting innont, monotime, psiontal, bnymph. shadow & immo rushes were fast enough to outrace georesonator decks & other rushes. innont came off as being the best deck once I figured it out because it's a very fast stallbreaker. It's also immune to CC like Lobotomizer since SoR gets multiple nymphs out at once. Monotime was exceptionally strong, both before & after nymph nerf, tho I didn't play it as much as I'd've liked to after nerf

Shadowrush & Bnymph both felt very strong, but they have clear weaknesses (notice the plural)

[OdinVanguard]

Have you tried un-vugon yet?

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[serprex]

My log is complete of what I saw/tried in OL1. I saw 0 deja vus & 0 shapeshifters (tho I ran a 1-of shapeshifter in pixiegon)

[timpa]

These are the decks I used with some regularity (I didn't kept track of everything)

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[kirbylover314]

Firestall

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The Deck

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NT Rush

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Patient Golems

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UG Rush

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[serprex]

OL2

Spoiler for updated decks:

dbhbow got +throw rock

innont

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vader

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ricorock

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ricorock40

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goose

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soraoh

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sopawarden (credit Shinki)

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fungus

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candy

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FFQ (forgot to post last season, credit CG)

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sadarm (credit D2D)

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alchbow (credit Sky)

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innorico (credit CG)

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2-0 kirby
vader vs neurodials (BW wtf)
bnymph vs immortal (no reflective)

0-2 kirby
monotime vs neurodials
psiontal vs thedeck

0-2 kirby
firelight beats 1 blue nymph
firelight doesn't beat the deck after 3 SoDs
innont outrushed by grabbow with fast fog

2-1 lin
monotime vs speedpoison (no draw power, only drew a pharaoh. Almost outraced)
dbhbow vs emerald pillars + water mark
ricorock vs adrenalstaves

1-2 kirby
innorico really helps grabbow
ricorocks fast reflective vs UG
ricorocks can't deal with arse & spirit of grabbow

(Nymph Queen nerf)

2-1 TLoD
dbhbow locks vs airlight
shadow cries vs firelight
innont rolls vs firelight (really slow start, midas'd own pillar, no inno)

2-0 timpa
pixiegon eeks out past devs vs vamptal
ricorocks fast reflective vs bnymph

2-0 LiN
immo outpaces SoSebow
goose wins with 1 card left vs sosa/chrys (LiN forgot arse)

2-0 kirby
sopawarden vs sow/reflect/nymph (closer than expected)
luciwolf only needs wolves to beat rtpoison

2-0 kirby
neuro vs sow/reflect/nymph (closer than expected)
bnymph vs grabbow, had swave & fog

2-0 timpa
sopawarden vs NT/earth
luciwolf vs patcell (he removed sopa the turn before hope)

1-2 Odin
fast sopawarden vs voodoowarden
pixiegon gets locked by monotime
bluenymph locked by voodoowarden's trident

2-0 gomory
alchbow outcontrols funrock
warden misplay nearly loses to funrock

2-1 kirby
alchbow loses to grabbow (AM could've saved? Don't know, I suck)
fast trident warden beats ricorock
thedeck gets pulvy in time vs UG (honorable mention to Clepsydra)

0-2 D2D
dbhbow can't stop sorgon (should)
shadowrush loses to monolightstall

0-3 Shinki
discord locks luciwolf
(invalid) warden loses to minomare
neurodials loses to thedeck

0-2 kirby
immorush can't get through thedeck
ricorock40 vs neurobw

2-1 timpa
thedeck couldn't stabilize vs monotime30
monotime60 > monotime30
pixiegon outraces 2-pillar innont

1-2 kirby
slow unnt dies to neurobw
misplayed ffq outraces grabbow
pixiegon vs neurobw loses

0-2 LiN
sadarm loses to SoSebow's fog
monotime vs neurobw, 2nd inno would've let me mill for win

1-2 sky
ricorock bigger than immortal
dbhbow loses to immortal
innont loses to grabbow

0-2 kirby
candy vs grabbow (need faster pacify vs arsenic)
ricorock40 vs firelight is a joke

2-0 gomory
goose vs monoentropy (discord/RT locks dragons)
dbhbow disrupts geotk enough

0-2 sky
goose locks bnymphs (UG pushed me rather low tho)
monotime's Eternity beats immortal

2-0 Dawn
Ghostmare gets fast eternity vs soirush
Shadowrush wins with 0 cards vs monolightstall

2-1 kirby
goose vs firelight wins with much destroy & sofo
thedeck vs fast grabbow is sadface
dbhbow locks neurobw

2-1 lin
grabbow vs sosebow, didn't outrush
monotime vs alphabond: SoR/Scarab ftw
fast unwarden locks chrys, break SoPa early to bust BWs

1-2 kirby
monoaether vs grabbow only dragon/sow/dims in top half of deck
luciwolf vs neurobw RT keeps me from 2nd wolf too long
shadowrush vs thedeck ugh

2-1 Fippe
uninst wins vs firebw with 7 cards left
goose loses vs monoentro (I made a singu because I suck)
ricorocks pulls through vs tridentbow

2-0 sky
bnymph vs immortal without reflective
bnymph vs immo (Deflag forced on OE to save Golem, thanks fog)

2-1 lin
immorush vs fungus had the dryspells it needed
pixiegon vs shifterotk? they had no time, so busted
dbhbow rushes innosose without denial

0-2 mega
dbhbow vs sopalem loses to domin
pixiegon vs dryfungus sofr didn't proc once for 6 dragons

2-1 kirby
unsoraoh vs neurobw, won with calculated 1hp
neurodials vs thedeck I swear that's all neurodials gets to face
bnymph vs thedeck prevails

2-1 lin
bnymph beats innosose
soraoh vs innosose without pharaoh is sad
pixiegon's fog beats alphabond

2-0 shinki
sopawarden 3ttk vs thedeck (2ttk if not for SoG)
pixiegon eeks by mono entropy (fog blocks nothing)

2-1 kirby
fungus vs neurobw, only 2 pillars whole game, died with bond in hand
innont outraces monont
thedeck outstalls grabbow (first pande was double PU, so won relatively fast)

2-1 Shinki
regradeotk vs wingedelves
dbhbow could win vs sanctsog if I hadn't played discord into thorn
monotime's pharaoh breaks sanctsog
& I thought OL1 was stally. Psiontal let me down vs The Deck. There was a period of time where I didn't tryhard & ran goose/ricorock. I never got to go against The Deck with ricorock, so I don't know if it wins like I think it does (that's why I brought it into my set of decks, after all)